Chapter 15 · The Ali Gilbert Podcast
PED Strategies for Muscle Growth
October 27, 2023
And I actually, I want to ask you about what the best bulking PEDs are because guys do ask that they want to know that. And for the dudes who have put the time and effort in the gym, and maybe they want to take it to the next level. They're like, where do I start with that? yeah i like look i like to keep things simple this is why people don't like to talk to me about gear because i'm like it's not complicated like people are people to talk to you about people are making these huge careers on like being ped specialists and then it's it's like they come to me and they the client their clients come to me and go can you look at my cycle and i'm like okay send me a list and i'm looking at it go okay send me send me a list of what you're not on because it's easier to analyze that because they just start piling on more and more shit when i advise people on this, the first thing I do is just try some TRT because you'll put easily three, four kilos on with TRT. Okay. And when TRT, maybe, maybe we go sports TRT, you take 200, 250 milligrams. That's a super low amount. It's more than TRT, but it's not a cycle cycle. You put on three, four kilos. And if you're not happy with that, good. Let's go to four, 500. If you're not happy with that, let's go to 600. And if we're at 600, let's keep testosterone at 600. If you need something else, we'll add a different compound. And then the next discussion is what type of bulk do you want? Do you want to look like a big bloated monster and be really strong? If you are, we'll throw D-ball or anadrol in there. If you don't, then we'll pop in some different anabolics that pair well with that. So either one of the variations or like I say trend for people who have done quite a few cycles, because trend is big boy medicine a lot of people get on that right off the bat and that is not a great first-timer drug people don't realize how powerful it is and they take far too much but um you know look the old test and deca still works like a champion if they want something like maybe they want more endurance maybe i give them a little little echo boy something like that so maybe test and echo boys but i always base everything on test because we know that works like this the the research on test at 200 milligrams we put two to four kilos on you at 600 milligrams and put about eight kilos on you in as little as 12 weeks So it 25 pounds enough for you If it's not, we'll throw D-ball in there. That'll put another four, five, six kilos on you. But you'll also look like Stay Puft Marshmallow Man. You'll be bloated as shit. And when you get off of it, a lot of that will go away, but you'll still retain some and you'll still be really fucking strong. right um but i think a good like a good roundabout like testosterone as a base and then the next thing is like do i what do i want out of this do i want something that's just anabolic to just add a little like a little sprinkles or do i want something that's more androgenic maybe it makes me look a little bit harder but there's also more side effects to that so you know maybe i think about something like decker echoploys and then later maybe i pull that out switch that with trend when I when I know I can take trend and not be a complete fucking asshole on it and you know end up end up in jail and then there's obviously throwing in an oral like a mild or like a little bit of anivar anivar is the best thing I love I love windstraw like that's my thing I like a little bit of windstraw probably my favorite cycle for me which I haven't done again was talking to a friend of mine I haven't done an actual cycle in like 10 years like I've hardly done TRT so yeah so um