Chapter 9 · The ATP Project
Metabolic Flexibility and Performance Carbs
June 08, 2018
Also on the ketone thing, that's so common for people to want to jump into ketogenic dieting right now. I really like what my friend Dr Mike T Nelson who has like 15 PhDs and he one of the smartest guys that I know And he huge into the research And he teaches courses on metabolic flexibility. And he goes, look, let's look at the ketogenic diet. He goes, this is a backup survival pathway for when you can't find food. If you're trying to perform, why the fuck would you not want carbs? Why would you want to be in ketosis when that's like survival? and when carbs mean performance. So what we typically teach people is if you're interested in physique, yeah, go a little bit low carb. Do you have to go into ketosis? Absolutely not. But you might have to go lower carb to increase your metabolic flexibility so that you can modulate fat burning and keep a respiratory quotient where you want it. But if you're an athlete, you have to have carbs. Every time I've gone into ketosis, definitely my strength and my power has dropped. Absolutely. And I think when I was utilizing ketosis as an idea to help people is because they had over, gone too far on the carbohydrates. So effectively, it's almost like retraining their body. Hey, you don't need as many carbohydrates as you think you need. And giving the receptors a break from insulin so they can become sensitive to it again. But what's really important when you're talking about athletes and ketogenic, while in a ketogenic phase and training hard and pushing their limits and not performing well, but then starting to improve, we get excessive mitochondrial biogenesis we actually get tougher and stronger and it's a good strategy to use to actually improve someone's endurance or strength capacity but then what we do it's just like blood doping you know then we prior to the competition we throw all the carbs back in so the whole thing is is we put them into a deficit yeah they're baseball guys they swing around the heavy bat and then we take it off and off they go it's the same concept we make we put a handbrake on you to make it work harder for you like running with the parachute yeah yeah so then you build up um extra mitochondria you get extra energy part production pathways then when you throw the calories and the carbs and everything back in all of a sudden it's like let's go you know we're going back to that cycling which is what we talked about at the start which is about you know the high calorie diets the high you know the bulking phases and then the leaning phases in nature we have those cycles yeah all the seasons yeah yeah you know if you're living in a really cold environment there's no fruit you're ketogenic in winter yeah you meet and yeah thermogenic the whole time you're right it's a backup thing but if you supplement with ketones remember it does down regulate the basal metabolic rate because it is a survival does it really yeah so it down regulates your basal metabolic rate oh is that right i didn't even know that yeah it was in our podcast i don't think you were doing that one probably not i might have been i'm only talking about but it but it does it just down regulates basal metabolic rate which is not you know again it's as long as you're aware of it and you're happy to you know cut back your performance for that time and lose the weight that's fine yeah yeah