Ketones vs. Fat Loss Metabolism

But the other thing, the thing I have with the ketones as well is they're marketing them as a fat loss supplement. They're not a fat loss supplement. They're a byproduct of fat loss metabolism, right? So if you're ingesting all these ketones, it's like the branch change. You're taking tons of branch change. That is a caloric value. The ketones have a caloric value. And if you're taking a lot of them, there's a negative feedback loop that makes the body go, okay, my brain has plenty of ketones. I don't need to break all of this fat down. So you have people taking it all day, and they're taking it for the wrong reason, and it's being marketed as something wrong, and I've got a problem with that. And as well, you can make ketones for free really easily. Like burning fat. Like burning fat. Go for a run in the morning with me, and I'll even leave my shirt on. There you go. You know what people want? And your pants too. People want change They want change but they don't want to do anything They want to keep their current lifestyle But then they want to get lean and strong and all this It's a microwave society I just want a product or a pill that will change everything Without actually having to change anything Just take this pill And what if you can pee on a stick and it confirms change Oh well you know you take a ketone And now you're in ketosis You're not in ketosis It's like if I ate You are in ketosis but you're not ketogenic You don't have ketogenesis, which is kind of the point of fat breakdown. It's like if I took my blood sugar right now, and this morning my fasting blood sugar was 4.5.

if i drank like 400 grams of glucose and then took it it would be sitting at like 21 am i now diabetic yeah yeah exactly am i diabetic for the next two hours because i took a bolus dose of yeah that's that's yeah that's ridiculous to say but that's what the the ketone people are saying yeah right and the reason why those keto sticks exist is because to monitor people to make sure they don't get too many ketones and get kidney disease yeah ketoacidosis will kill you and so the funny thing is is the whole the original reason why those sort of tools exist is so people can measure their ketones and go oh wow i'm getting too much ketones i've got to drink more water i've got to increase my calories i've got to get back i've got to burn some yeah if you're so basically i've got to protect my kidneys if you're diabetic i need to shoot up some insulin because i got to get the ketones down exactly i've got a type 1 diabetic right now out of hong kong and He's on a very, very low-carb ketogenic cell diet because he's got H. pylori and SIBO. We're monitoring his beta-hydroxybutyrate. We're monitoring his blood ketones to make sure they don't get too high. He's having fantastic results, but he knows how to use insulin to keep that in the right area. A lot of people are buying the ketometers now. They'll take their ketones and say, look, I'm at 0.3. Then they'll take the Keto OS. Then, oh, all of a sudden, they're at 1.2. Well, now I'm in ketogenesis. You're not. No, you've got exogenous ketones. That's what you're measuring and reading. And the frustrating thing is in the past, it was all about trying to keep those levels down and keep the color off the sticks to make sure you're safe. Now people are trying to get the strongest, highest color on the stick as possible. They're dehydrating themselves. And they're constantly measuring things. And they've got this thing in their mind that if I can change the color on the sticks, I am burning fat. And it's not the case. They're actually, if you're changing color on sticks, you're excreting ketones. those ketones may be coming from a thing you've drunk or they may be coming from you breaking down fat but when you get too many of them your body can't stop you from drinking these things because you're part of a month subscription and so so basically um it sends a message back to your body saying because this person's on a month-long prescription and they want to actually use these products that they've paid for we're going to have to stop burning fat yes but in the short term with ketones what these people feel is remarkable results they feel energy they feel awake they feel strength and power and it does keep them out of starvation mode you know like because the calories and that are coming in they get less ghrelin and you know i mean and this is one of the advertising campaigns they use to sell ketones as you get less cravings you get more satiety you get better energy very similar things to we get when we're actually not in a calorie deficit and that's what they're actually achieving with it the problem is people get dependent on it and they don't want to change anything else so you have people you've got a society of people that have poor glucose sensitivity they have poor insulin management and then they take something that they can give them energy irrespective of all these things then like great i can eat all these carbs and then take these ketones so they're going about it kind of the wrong way yeah like if if somebody came to me and you know ketogenic dieting is is really popular now and they wanted to take ketones for like like the first two weeks to kind of get over the keto flu and all that yep that's a perfect time to take it exactly right yeah but you don't want to be dependent on taking it all the time so in other words too much of a good thing it can be used as a good tool but again it's over but that always seems to happen isn't it the pendulum just swings too far it's not a fat loss tool is to the other point no it's actually a performance tool it's a brain and a muscle performance thing and how does anyone know the calorific i like saying calorific because it sounds almost like terrific but does anyone know the calorific value i think it's nine grams per sorry nine yeah yeah nine calories per gram that's the same as fat same as fat yeah because that acts the same as fat. Yeah. I mean, it's a byproduct of fat burning. Yeah, acetone. It's a very similar structure. It's actually got a big oxygen in the middle of it if you want that ketones. If you want more energy and more calories, just drink booze, man. There's seven calories. You save two calories, and I feel pretty good when I drink. Yeah. And you probably perform pretty well. Yeah. Makes you a good dancer. You know, you feel like Superman. Yeah, I probably burn a lot more calories when I'm drunk. I'm a hell of a lot funnier. I can dance. You're more attractive as well. Oh, that's what they say when I get other people drunk. Yes. They're called bear goggles. Yeah. Bear goggles? Or beer. Is that a Kiwi version of saying beer goggles? Are you saying it... Learn how to speak English. Actually, New Zealand English is closer to the original English than the Australian version. Hang on. That word you just said, bear, how do you spell it? B-E-E-R. Okay. So you are referring to beer goggles. Cool. I was just trying to get... I wasn't sure if you wanted me to wear these hairy goggles with ears attached and go, I've got my bear goggles on. I'm myself a bear. There she goes again. No one can understand you, she-bear. Anyway. Funny.