Exogenous Ketones and Marketing Myths

And you mentioned, just jumping there, Tommy, you mentioned the ketones. Because as far as I understand, taking ketones supplement, yes, you're going to measure ketones, but it doesn't mean you're in ketosis. You're just getting ketones in the blood. Is that right with those supplements? You do actually have to put the diet behind the ketone. You can't just load carbs all day and then take the ketone supplement. It's like, well, I'm in ketosis, ketones. I'm not opposed to the exogenous ketones for specific situations. Like if somebody is doing a ketogenic diet and they want to use those to keep from getting the keto flu, cool. If you've got seizures, cool. If you're using it for some type of brain issue, like some type of neuron issue, cool. I get it. But it's the way they're marketing it saying that, oh, this will help fat loss. No, motherfucker. Like these are a byproduct of oxidizing or breaking down fats, right? If you add ketones, your body doesn't have any reason to fucking break down fat to make ketones, you dumb shit, right? so don't take them thinking that oh cool i can eat 400 grams of carbs and lose fat because i'm taking this fucking supplement and that's what really pisses me off about it but you yeah fuck people will take them and then they'll measure their fucking blood ketones and go oh look see i'm in ketosis no you dumb shit okay here's the thing i'm gonna eat 200 fucking grams of sugar and measure now i'm sitting at fucking 18 millimoles on it and i'm okay i've got diabetes yeah if i stimulated diabetes because i ate 200 grams of sugar yeah yeah good way to look at it It takes a little more to go into ketosis. Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. This is what makes me so fucking angry. Yeah, yeah. Oh, you're going to put their dick in the dirt, goddammit. That's it. But certainly they have their place. You're not knocking them. It's like if you – Yeah, no. Keto flu is a real thing. But you've got to get the real stuff. And I'm by no means really hip with the education on them because I don't use them. And, you know, because you've got to look at the difference between the salts versus the esters. And I'm not the man – like there are people that know all about this. That's not my thing. And one time I did, a friend of mine gave me a tub of his ketones, and they were all ketone salts. And I didn't realize how much magnesium was bonded to some of the ketones. And so I'm taking it. And in measuring blood, I mean, BHBs, they're not going up that much. So I keep taking, taking. Oh, my God. Next thing I know, I'm in a bathroom with fucking green apple splatters and fucking assholes turned inside out. But I did lose a couple of kilos, but, you know. Magic. part of the thing that i don't understand if you don't have a pathological reason to to use them is um fuck man i can teach you how to make ketones really fast for free yeah just by kicking your training volume up and you'll cut your carbs back enough to not fuel get rid of all the liver glycogen you're pretty sweet right so eat your carbs around your training or during like before during and after training so i'll peri-workout do a lot of walking everybody's out doing their steps anyway so but go out and walk fast try to get your heart rate up to like 130 140 you don't have any problem keeping keeping the ketones high and you know it doesn't cost you anything but time which you're already spending time training anyways and now now you can make a check to luke lehman and send it to me because i just saved you saved you from buying those fucking ketones dr lehman very good it seems like the efficiency of whatever dietary path you choose is dependent on creating some sort of deficit in energy initially. What is the real benefit of that? Why is it so effective of getting the system malleable so you can start playing with it? Well, so if we look at, so we'll go back to the mitochondria, right? So we're talking about a lot of people that get on the ketogenic diets, they get them because they believe they're insulin resistant. And what we're finding, there's a lot of new research that's come out in the last few years that shows that really insulin resistance is a protective mechanism by your body. And I remember when I used to teach bioseg and we were telling people to take all these fucking herbs and shit to increase insulin sensitivity. Now I'm like, oh, fucking facepalm. Like your cell, there's a reason your cell doesn't want the sugar in the cell. And now I'm forcing it to accept the sugar. And now you're causing more metabolic disruption. So one of the big theories that I'm more apt to believe in is that, you know, there's some type of dysfunction across the electron transport chain. Your pyruvate is coming into the mitochondria. the Krebs cycle saying, yeah, I don't fucking need you right now. You get fucked and it turns it back into lactate pushes it back into the in the bloodstream which is where I use the lactate scalp to measure that And eventually if the mitochondria is dysfunctional and doesn want it how is the cell going to alleviate the issues with the mitochondria Well, let's make this cell resistant to insulin or resistant to sugar. So now you lose glucose sensitivity and insulin sensitivity. And the only way you get insensitivity back at that point is by training. So movement-based glucose transport. And now let's reduce the glucose load so now the mitochondria can catch back up. So now we limit the influx of glucose that increases or decreases oxidative stress at the mitochondria, which allows the mitochondria to get healthy again and start doing what it's supposed to, which is replicate itself and also destroy old dysfunctional mitochondria as well. And then in that time frame, the insulin sensitivity comes back so it can actually utilize the glucose.