Chapter 13 · 'Under The Bar'
Education and Trainer Competency
March 03, 2019
tell me luke um do you find that uh as much as you know you sort of said that a lot of people are copying what you're doing is that almost not a blessing but like people are coming to because i remember when i first heard some of your stuff and muscle owners were like whoa this stuff you know and people used to come away from it's like luke's absolutely amazing you sit there till you get at the end of the day but it's you gotta you gotta have your head screwed on if you're hearing this stuff you know um and i think that's you dumbing it down as well like do you find that because we're exposed to a lot more of these concepts when people come now to muscle nerds it's it's an easier educate like that almost that base as long as assuming they haven't been taught really really bad information yeah but that base is so they're getting a little more out of your courses these days yeah they are and you know we we figured out a while back we said okay how do we how do we make these courses better because we teach i mean our level our foundations course is 500 slides in three days right and and it's biochemistry and it's physiology and it's it's some very complicated subjects and we we water it down to the big broad concepts of what they need to know and then what we've done now is we have pre-course material that we've recorded so that if they've done the pre-course material at least they're fairly familiar with the stuff and most of the people that come to our courses come through three or four times because they really want to learn it and i could we could break it down into different levels and we could water it down but we would rather people come back to the full Monty three or four times and really hammer it in and really understand it because it's a game changer when you look at like our program design course with all it's all exercise metabolism chemistry and our foundations courses all basically nutritional biochemistry and stress management things like that if you do those two together it's probably going to put you above 99.9% of the trainers out there that you know they're spending money on TRX fucking certifications goddamn bosu balls certifications instead of actually learning how the body works and uh i talked to luke tolic a lot and he's kind of doing the same thing we are but on a kind of a different level yeah um so he's teaching a lot of physiology just stuff that trainers should fucking already know but they don't and um they don't they they don't spend enough time in their cert three four of learning how the body works so that when you give them a stimulus you know what the adaptation is i can if i'm going to put you on stage i can tell you almost to the degree what weight you're going to be at and what body fat your percentage you're going to be at i can tell you everything because i know the rates of adaptation how fast and slow we can do things and we can nail it every time but if you don't know how the body works you can't really do that you just basically just picking programs just on by random throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks and isaac good over in perth Perth there Congratulations He got the win His first show he placed in every category The second one he placed in all but one because they said he was too big for the category. He was too big for fitness. His legs are massive. He never shows them off, but his thighs are fucking massive. He's one of those guys that when you take a close look, he's like, hmm, some muscle there. You sort of skim past him, but then you have a second look. Yeah, well, I mean, we started at 79 kilos, and we took a little over 12 months. We got him up to 79 to 91, and then we pulled him back down to around 81, 82. That's decent, man. Now if I could just get him to do some freaking gear, I'd be happy. Yeah, that's all natural. Yeah, I'd make him a monster if he'd just not be scared of needles. There's always a way. Just keep chipping away. That'd be weird. You know, I think with the physiology and some of the things you're saying there is that the point being is that a lot of trainers are doing things and not actually understanding the rationale behind what's going on. And I think this is where the understanding, you know, Luke Tulloch and yourself, of, you know, these broad strokes of physiology is a starting point, I think, is a very wise idea. Yeah. And I guess the thing is, Luke, it's not necessarily when you think about it, like at first you hear it, it's like, well, that's how it's almost going to practice. Well, it's not really because it's big picture type stuff that when you design that program, you can understand why that program is going to work. A hundred percent. And that's the thing. People are already writing programs so that they should really understand what it does. Like what happens when I give 10 sets of 10 versus this? What if I give you two minutes to rest between sets or 30 seconds? How do I sequence that to then to basically compound the next training phase into the next? Can I write 12 months of training? Our students in our program design class can write out 12 months of training, 12 months of conditioning. They can write out 12 different nutritional setups, and they know how to put the pieces of the puzzle in and some basic supplementation. And why shouldn't people be doing that with GenPop? And I saw a guy post the other day. So we use the Keystone software, which is Travis Jones's. It's really good. It gets so much better every week. They're constantly making updates. And somebody posted in the forum, they're like, hey, are you guys going to make an option where we can write their workout as we're training? and I thought, why isn't their fucking workout already written? You should have months and months. If you've created a plan from A to B, you should already know what the fuck they're going to do 12 months before they're going to do it. That's professional program design, not just like, I'm just going to make shit up. Oh, this looks cool. Let's do this. We could probably get balls deep into program design another time, but I think that was anything else you want to cover on that lifestyle lease mode type thing before we delve into the next couple of topics?