Coaching Philosophy and Titrating Doses

and it's no wonder that one of my best friends who literally had a ramon dino like physique who i think had some of the greatest potential he was like three years four years younger than me lifts is stronger than me in all lifts has a fucking shoulders and arms and legs like that i feel like we're almost twice my fucking size this kid was just like so he already had the whole package he had the whole package and he's been running gear for a short period of time but nothing ever crazy and then he finally did his first prep and he was like bro this isn't for me like my mentals were just not there and i couldn't sleep at the end of the prep i just i can't do it ever again and he just quit didn't compete again which is mind-blowing to me because i'm like bro you just ruined this kid who had so much potential because he probably could have just taken less gear or something yeah and the thing is it's like here's here's the here's the conundrum if you start with a low dose you get less side effects yeah you're not gonna you're not gonna put on the same as if you up it but you always have the opportunity to add a little bit more when it's not working add a little bit more yeah but if you go to the high end it's going to be really difficult to convince somebody to take less so like i don't i don't coach a lot of people that are on gear i train i do train a lot of people that are on trt sometimes trt plus but they all know if we're gonna if you're gonna compete whether it's powerlifting bodybuilding strongman whatever i'm always going to recommend the least amount of shit to get the job done and anytime they want to take more than that i'm like i'm not cool with that i'll refer to you somebody who doesn't give a shit and they'll let you take whatever the fuck you want so i'll just pass those clients off and it's usually not the drugs it's keeping them from pushing forward is that they train like a pussy they sleep like a pussy they eat like a pussy yeah you know but i had a guy in the netherlands i put him he'd never taken anything and he goes what do you think I should do? Well, you're in your late thirties instead of jumping head first into the shallow, into the pool. Let's just take just TRT and see what it does. Put them on 150, 160 milligrams of testosterone. He puts like six pounds on immediately. And I'm like, okay, do you want more? He's like, yeah. Okay. Let's go to 300. He puts on another few pounds. Then his friend told him, oh, that's not enough gear to get where you want to be. And this guy wasn't trying to be a bodybuilder. He just wanted to feel good, look good. Like you've already put like nine or 10 pounds on less than 300 milligrams of gear. How are you going to say it's not working? And what do you use for your argument of saying you definitely need more? Like if you want more, that's fine because we still have another two or 300 milligram that we could just bring the test up. And once we've hit that, now we consider adding something else at a low dose and bring it up but people go straight to everything and straight the trend first cycle jesus you know throwing some check drops throwing some halitestin see how that works right like some of the ones that'll really fucking make you angry and psychotic uh something i did in the past is like whenever i was really trying to hone in on what kind of dose was best for me at a certain time um normally i would start lower and if i felt like it was kind of hard for me to tell whether or not i felt like it was enough of course but what i would do is personally just for my own sake i would titrate up uh say that i was on test and primo i would titrate up both either like 25 or 50 milligrams the next week so i would bring that up and then see how that felt and then if i if it didn't feel enough then i would bring it up again but almost most of the time i noticed the change from going that small enough for an amount um and then at one certain point if i kept going up i would start feeling a little bit more aggression i'd start knowing it's noticing just a little bit of a change in how I felt. Because, you know, when you feel more aggressive, your thoughts are a little bit more aggressive as well. And it wasn't very much, but it was still something that I noticed like, Hey, this is a little different from my normal. Yeah. And from that, I would be able to decide whether or not I wanted to just keep it where it was, or if I wanted to tighten it down again, like another like 50 milligrams. So for example, like this off season right now, I started plateauing. Well, it wasn't really much of a plateau. I was still gaining weight because I'm eating enough calories. But my weight increase has started to plateau slowly. And then my coach and I decided to up my doses up by 75 milligrams for both Tess and Primo.

and in the last two weeks i went up four pounds again yeah so that's telling me like yeah like what we literally agreed in the message yesterday was our calories and our dose is good no going up anymore we're gonna ride this wave because i'm obviously making gains that i need to like and i remember talking to some guests of mine um and he's one of my boys so nothing on him but he was also an open bodybuilder so he's got his own methodologies and this is what i'm trying to distinctively show that there's differences. Um, like everyone doesn't need to just listen to what he says, because I'm sure not everyone in my audience is trying to become an open bodybuilder in Olympia. But when we were talking, he was like, yeah, I was taking a gram of tests. And when I told him I was taking 500, he's like, bro, those are baby doses. We call those like dad doses back where I'm from. Like you need to, you need to increase your dose way more. And I'm like, what do you think? Like, but why I'm like, I'm like, what do you think then? Like, um, cause he took a gram i'm like maybe like 750 he's like yeah start at 750 750 minimum how much do you weigh i weigh 193 right now yeah see and i'm gonna look i'm gonna say okay why like why like why not i get if you were 250 pounds we'd have a different conversation like you're right around 200 pounds there's no reason to take an ifbb bodybuilder dose until you get to that level right right I'm sure that at some point in my future, maybe I'll be getting there. But as of right now, titrating up slowly has been doing me pretty damn well. And I want to make sure I save that amount for whenever my body's ready for it. Because I feel like that's the purpose of people coming off and doing TRT in the first place, is they want to respond better. And a lot of times with the mindset of these guys too, they're like, well, just take it up to a gram. You're like, well, what do I do if my blood pressure goes up? Okay, well, take an antihypertensive. Okay, well, what do I do when my lipids get fucked up? Well, just take another drug. And what do I do about my estrogen? Take another drug. My hair's falling out. What do I do? Take a drug. And it's like, man, more drugs are not the answer. Like, what you're doing is working. So instead, why go to the Wild West and just start shooting from the hip when you know, like, just a small extra puts another four pounds on me, you know? But it's, and again, like I said, I've done all the weird shit. I remember when I was younger, now I'm older, I'm scared shitless, but I don't want to push it anymore because I don't want to, when you get older, you're not as resilient to the side effects. So I remember pushing, I pushed Sustanon once to 10 amps a week, and usually I'd be in no more than 600 to 750 of tests, and that's being like 250, 270 pounds. and I pulled it, put it up to 2.25 grams. And the only difference between 750 to a thousand and two grams was I've never, I drugs never gave me back knee. I started getting back knee. I was really oily. My hair started thinning. I was weirdly aggressive, but almost like a, almost like female aggression where it's more like mopey, irrational, like not, not like a masculine type of aggression. It was kind of like a petty argumentative type of aggression. And I didn't like it. I tried, I tried windstroll once at a gram a week and that was amazing. That was amazing. Like, I don't think people understand how strong windstroll actually is when you take enough of it, but then the side effects aren't worth it i lasted two weeks and i remember one day i woke up and i was getting ready to brush my teeth and i couldn't close my hands it felt like all my joints were made out of glass and if i tried to close my hand my fingers would break in half so i was okay that's too much way too crazy yeah and then that's you know the the crazy amounts of trend wenstraw and sussanon you know i tried all these things and just realized that at a certain point more drugs are just more side effects and not really more gains yeah until you get big enough to need that amount so