The Ceiling Effect of PEDs

every every single medication every single drug has a ceiling you're wasting money it's not giving you any more positive benefits only negative benefits and then you end up having to take accessory drugs to try to counteract the negative side effects that you're happening when you could just simply take less right so you know you start taking let's say a good dose of testosterone, six milligrams per kilogram. So if you're 100 kilograms, 220 pounds, about 600 milligrams of testosterone is about the threshold where you've maximized what you're going to get out of it. And any more than that has to be dealt with some other way because you can't actually use it. So do we break this down into estrogen? Now I have estrogenic side effects. Then somebody takes an anti-aromatase to kind of combat that. Then they suppress the rest in too much and her cholesterol gets fucked up like then maybe your blood pressure goes up because of all the drugs and now you're taking something to to drop your blood pressure and then that fucks up something else like now you can't get a you take an ace inhibitor so you don't can't get a hard boner so now you take cialis to fix that now your blood pressure drops you take something else to fix that and next thing you know you're on 15 different fucking things that are trying to provide a solution from the fact that you're just taking too much gear yeah but people don't bat an eye people don't bat an eye i used to get people all the time say hey i've been training with this guy it's my first cycle i just don't feel right can you take a look at my cycle sure email it to me i'd get a list this is your first this is your first cycle yeah okay send me a list of what you're not on because that's a much shorter list like and these and it wouldn't make any sense like these are amateur bodybuilders they nowhere near where they need to be to take anything close of what they doing yeah bro that one of the craziest things i have personal experiences seeing some of my closest friends get a program from a coach and i don want to name i don want to name the coach um but i know there's multiple people that do shit like this coach does and they'll give them the full-on stack for their first prep ever and their first basically their first cycle like imagine they're natural and they're going on a prep and he starts giving them a stack he'll fucking give everything including trying to minimum 300 milligrams which is mind-blowing to me you've just