Dangers of Trenbolone and High Doses

at least have some fucking type of awareness about literally any substance like you take trend or you drink some alcohol this shit just exacerbates what's in your mind in your body right now you know if you haven found peace in yourself or maybe you actually have a fuck ton of hormonal issues that are causing you some crazy thoughts and shit that just probably just going to exacerbate it right especially trend like trends the one if you like well trend as far as like popular stuff that people do trends the one if you aren't at peace don't take trend and trend i tell everybody i talked about this trend's big boy medicine like put trend in when you actually need it. Trends like a, you get like a half a half a dozen cycles in you. And then you start thinking maybe some trend and then try a little bit of trend goes a long way. But people go straight to taking massive hundreds of milligrams of trend. You don't need that much. You're going to fuck yourself up. It's going to make you a Royal asshole. It's going to turn people. It's like drinking. You know, you have a little bit of booze and you're kind of fun. You have too much booze. You have a real big potential for turning into an asshole and ruining your life. Trend will do that i just want to say this for the for the audience so they have a little bit like anyone who's like listening to the podcast has at least some kind of like awareness of like what who you are and what you've said and stuff but like after listening to your podcast and your speeches and stuff honestly bro like i am i'm very intrigued in a conversation because i feel like you're kind of in the same place as me where you are very conscious about not only your lifestyle um and your you know your clients lifestyles as well but like you took so many things into account including like being sympathetic versus parasympathetic as well as like people using gdas and how this is actually affecting the testosterone level because it's affecting um um you're still pushing like sugar into the cell that doesn't want it and etc um and i think a lot of people that will just jump on say peds that don't have like this long-term plan of being like an olympian bodybuilder or something or this long-term plan of living life until they're like 80 90 years old don't normally have some kind of conscious thoughts over these things right because while bodybuilding is simple our bodies are also super complicated so in order to stay healthy or have some type of wellness every person has like a different fucking program they have to go through because you just have a different chemistry yeah it's like if you were doing a computer program and every single program had a completely different code you know sometimes you just have one thing wrong like you have one semicolon that's not there and the cold fucking program doesn't work. And that's how I see, you know, us working as humans. So, um, anyways, tangent short, uh, what was your worst trend experience ever? Oh, which one? Um, okay. So just to be clear, I've never been the type of guy to push things. I would read, I was always lower dose, multiple compounds, low dose of each for an extended period of time. But I did play around with, I wonder what would happen if I crank this up. And when we were doing, when we first started doing trend, nobody knew how much to take because the drug of choice would be parabolin, but then they discontinued parabolin. So it got prohibitively expensive and also difficult to get. And I reckon you couldn't get it for a long time. I know a lot of manufacturers in China started making it again, but we used to get those from france and 76 milligram ampoules and you would take one monday wednesday friday and it was just delicious so when that went away somebody figured out oh look at these cattle pellets it's phenoplex they have you trend acetate yeah close to the same thing so we start like extracting trend from cattle pellets but we didn't know how much to take so i always went well 76 times three what's that 200 and something okay so i'm just going to dose it just like I would parabolum. And that, that would be considered, you talk to like Dave Lee and some other people, they'd be like, yeah, that's a high dose of Trent. I would actually agree with them. There was a time where I thought like 225, 250 milligrams of Trent is not that high. Now I look at it as probably, you probably don't need more than 150 a week. Really? Okay. Yeah. And you can get away with a tube, like two 50 and you, you may or may not see any side effects, But once you start pushing that into the four or 500 or higher, that's when you're going to get some really weird shit going on. So I decided to try. I mean, I was making it. So it's costing me like 40 bucks to make tons of it. And then a friend of mine who's a pharmacist figured out how to pull test propionate from Cinevex. So in Cinevex is another cattle pellet that has both test probe and estradiol. He figured out how to get the estradiol out. So you extract that out first, filter it, then extract the test probe. So we were getting, you'd spend 70 bucks and you would have fucking months and months of propane and Tren. So why not just take it up, see what happens? Because nobody else had done a dose like that, that I knew of at the time. And probably the funniest one was when I started crying in a Harry Potter movie. So imagine Wait what was his dose 8 8 Trenacetate Which right now a lot of people right now don even bat an eye you talk to power lifters are taking like a gram of that shit and they don they don't man the other day i farted my nose started bleeding i'm like yeah it's way too much trinacetate way way too much yeah like they've got massively high blood pressure all the veins are sticking that for their head is purple they're they can't walk 10 feet without being out of breath and they don't understand what it is. I'm like, bro, that's too much trend. Drop the, cut that shit by like 75%. You don't need that much. Um, so imagine, I think it was a Tuesday and I was in the movie theater with the girl I was dating at the time. And luckily there's nobody else because we're in the middle of the day, 270 pounds. And Harry is on the beach and the dementor is like sucking his face. And I'm just losing my mind. I'm like crying and shaking and I'm raging and I can't, I can't control it. And then the Patronus comes out and saves them. And I'm fucking, I jump up, I start screaming. Yeah. And then I sat down, I was like, fuck. Yeah. And my girlfriend at the time looks at me and goes, bro, you need to, you got to cut that. You got to cut whatever you're doing. You got to cut that shit out or down. This is not cool. But, uh, there's that. I used to get it stuck in traffic and I hate traffic. Traffic will make me homicidal. Oh bro. And one day I was in my Jeep and I'm like grabbing my, my wheel and I'm like, and I'm like punching the wheel and I turned and there's a little kid staring at me like, Hey, it's not like waving at him and just tried to calm back down. And then I realized like, man, this stuff is, it's way too powerful to not take seriously. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty intense. Yeah. I feel like this is where a lot of people's roid rage comes from. or the thought about roid rage existing people will say like oh roid rage doesn't exist it's i mean i understand why some people will say that because it's definitely based off of you and your chemistry and your mind you know um but i mean i think no matter who you are i feel like if you're going to take a gram of trend it's going to fuck you up so 100 and i think like like you said earlier it's going to exacerbate what's already inside of you yeah so if you are a mess psychologically and mentally gear is just going to make that come to the forefront, just like alcohol will. So, and trend is one of those it's because it's, it's so much more powerful than testosterone and the aggression you get from it is so heightened that it's the one that's going to make that come out like whether you like it or not. So for people that want to do trend, man, get your fucking head sorted first and try a hundred milligrams a week. Just see what it does. Cause I promise you, if you're doing like, let's say you're doing a base of testosterone and maybe you throw some primo or mastron in there and then maybe you throw a little bit of testosterone or a trend, you're not going to need that much trend. You just simply don't need that much. Um, I would so much rather somebody just take more testosterone, but everything has a ceiling, right? There's a, yeah, I think that's the most important part to say that people keep forgetting is like when they hear don't take too much or you don't need that much. they think oh well i'll still get more out of doing more but it's like no no at a certain point it starts biting in the ass