Career with Charles Poliquin and Poliquin Group

so what got you started in this um in in your in your coaching situation and then i know that i believe you were in a um what is it called maybe like a seminar with charles yeah um okay so if we go back again let's go back to that small town where i grew up this is like even before we had the internet you know we didn't we got the internet in 1992 in my hometown and so before that to everything thing you would learn was either just passed down like from the elders at the fireside and the camp and telling you old stories about bodybuilding and so some of it was good some of it was just complete bullshit and then we had magazines obviously like flex magazine muscle and fitness and all that muscle media was a big influence muscle media is where i found charles and i started reading his articles okay what he's saying makes a lot of sense and i like studying physical of cultural history and he basically not reinventing the wheel he just taking all of these methods that people figured out in the fifties and sixties seventies and eighties And now he figured out how to systemize it and then how to teach other people So I started doing his stuff and I man this shit works really well for me. And then that was in like muscle media. Then T-Mag came around and he was in that as well. So I was following him from the age of 14 and then fast forward, I think I was 27, maybe I finally did a seminar with him. And at that point I was hooked. I spent a few days with him. And then a few months later I did some more stuff, kept doing it. And then eventually he asked me to come on to be an assistant, a lecturer, assistant coach for him. Oh, wow. And then eventually he got booted out of the company and they brought me on to not really take his place, but to teach a lot of the stuff that he was teaching. And that was a whole, another fucking story, the clusterfuck of that company. Okay. Gotcha. It's fucking crazy shit that was going on in that company. Damn. Which I've now lost the company because apparently they're in a massive amount of debt they couldn't get out of. And, uh, yeah. So the publican group no longer exists. Can you spill some of the crazy shit? Yeah. I don't give a shit. No, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'll, uh, I'll talk about some crazy shit that I know. And I'll talk about, um, I'll talk about the stuff that I've heard lately. I'll talk about that first. So, um, just to give people clarity on what was happening, because a lot of people don't understand what happened. So Charles's name's on the side of the building. It's his company, but it's actually him and his wife. It's a third company he had built and he was not really good at keeping his ding-a-ling in his pants. And so he got busted and, uh, and she raked him over the coals, like raked, got him, booted him out of the company and sued him and did all this shit. And they thought that the place was going to be okay without Charles, that the brand was strong enough. But Charles was the brand. So it's like, when I showed up, I didn't know any of this. So I showed up on my first day, packed all my shit into storage, flew to Rhode Island to begin the new job. I've been trying to get this job for like seven years, and I finally got it. I show up, go to the first meeting. I'm like, all right, where's Charles? Like, he doesn't work for us anymore. I'm like, okay, where's Andre? Which is Andre Benoit is his right-hand man. Andre quit. Where's Ryan? Ryan got fired. Cool. So me and Derek, they're like, yep. I'm like, fantastic. You could have told me this before I packed all my shit up and flew across the country. That would have been like nice to not walk in on this. Yeah. But they, yeah, they, they made a horrible decision to do that. And the company just went downhill after that. I see. Like, like I'm talking millions just gone. Wow. It was crazy. But yeah, there was some crazy shit happening in that company. Um, I've got to think about, let me get, let me think about a good, like there was a lot, a lot of shenanigans, shenanigans going on. There are things like, you know, coaches having relationships with the students and sometimes pretty bad, pretty bad, like pretty bad shit. And like, uh, yeah, it's, it's, it's, It was rough. It was rough. There are some things I'll tell you off. I just need to figure out, is this stuff I could still get sued for? I don't think so. But I'm going to write a book at one point, change all the names, and I'll spill the beans on that. It's fucking wild. Crazy. That's dope. That's good to hear. We need some more of that, honestly. Honestly, it blows my mind how much of shit like that goes on. Bro, the fitness industry is funny. like i don't think p if people knew if people knew all the shit that we all got up to they'd be like oh you guys are health professionals i mean you know what i did this weekend and like i'm transparent about that type of stuff and but most coaches would never tell people like it is it's hard enough to get people to be transparent about the drugs that they're doing like the eds much less like recreational stuff you know but i think i think it's people need to know that stuff it's okay it's okay to do that real quick guys so while i was looking at the youtube analytics I actually saw that 85% of you guys that watch this channel are not subscribed. And I want to ask very little of you guys, but if you enjoy this podcast, if you find value in it, then please do me this one favor and subscribe to the channel because doing so helps me get bigger and greater guests like the guests you are listening to today. 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