Mentors and the Poliquin Group

And then I started powerlifting when I was 14. I did that until late 20s, got tired of that. I went into bodybuilding, went into strongman, did a bunch of other stuff. So that was kind of where it started as far as me lifting and competing and things like that. And I started reading about Charles Poliquin, Charles Poliquin, Paul Cech, like all these guys back in the day in muscle media, and then saw them on online when we got the internet in 1992, which sounds insane now, because there's a lot of people that'll be listening to this that don't know what it's like to not have the internet. Oh, there's my dog. I'm putting them down. So, yeah, so I started kind of studying that stuff and then saved up a lot of money and went to a seminar, did a lot of seminars with Paul Check, with Charles Poliquin, then eventually ended up working for Charles and kind of taking over some of his roles when he left the company.