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Chapter 5 · The Unknown Strength Podcast

Self-Sabotage and Addictive Behaviors

January 03, 2019

Fair to say, I'm no expert in this domain and I haven't really seen the stats on it, But I would have a hypothesis that a lot of these people who are obese and overweight, they're aware that the food they're eating is obviously not good for them. And that's why there's that underlying condition, that mental trauma that's leading them to self-sabotage, as you said. Yeah, absolutely. Because it's like the Catholics that whip themselves. It's like they feel the pain. Self-flagellation. Self-flagellation. That's exactly what I'm trying to say. And with the foods, they know it's hurting them. With the cigarettes, with the drugs, with the booze. It's just a perpetual sort of downward spiral. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, most of the people that have these addictive qualities, they don't want that to happen. But if you've ever been, most people have had this happen themselves before. Let's say you have somebody that gets stressed out and they want to get a drink, but they know if they have a drink, they're going to have a problem, right? And that was me. That's been me in the past, like drugs, drinking, sex, whatever. And it's almost like having an out-of-body experience where it's like, okay, I'm really stressed out. I need to deal with this. I can't cope. Okay. I'm going to go get a beer. And you're, you're walking into the garage. I don't need a beer. You open the refrigerator. You're like, I don't need to do this. You're grabbing the beer. I don't have to open. I can put it back. And then you drink that first one. And that first one leads to 12. And you're telling yourself the whole time, dude, you don't have to do this. You can walk away, go to the gym, go do this. And then it just happens. And it happens over and over and over every time you get triggered and you're all alone and you don't know who to talk to. and you can't get out of this rut. And if you don't seek help, you're going to stay in that rut forever. And I guess, you know, you're telling yourself you don't need to do this. You don't need to do this. There's no reasoning with a person in that state. You know what I mean? It's irrational behavior, which kind of needs to be peeled back and you need to get to the actual source of why that behavior is happening. Yeah, right. And so, I mean, when we look at, you know, where humans are built for survival, right? And when you get into a stressed-out state, your brain, your thinking brain is going to shut down. The limbic system is going to take over, right? And that's going to tell you, survive, survive, survive. If I can't survive through coping mechanisms, how can I make this pain go away? Okay? So, okay, let's turn to booze. Let's turn to drugs. Let's turn to sex. Whatever it is. You know, whatever it is that makes you not think about your pain. It turns the volume down a little bit. Absolutely. It just, now you can't hear it. I can't hear you. I'm going to ignore my problems. And they're going to go away eventually. and they don't. Yeah. And a lot of the times they just compound, right? They compound. Because the coping mechanism itself creates all secondary issues, secondary problems. Yeah.