Dangers of Trenbolone and Drug Abuse

Yeah. I mean, we really didn't know what we were doing. We can only make assumptions because Trenacetate coming out of cattle pellets was kind of a new thing to fill a gap on not being able to get Parabolin anymore. But what we were doing is we said, well, what's the dosage for Parabolin? It makes sense to do that. Me going to eight, can I say the milligrams? This is the podcast. We might tape it out again. Me jumping over 800 milligrams per week of Tren was just like, I wonder what will happen. I did it. That was really fucking stupid. Won't do that again. Yeah. So that's why I'm adamant too, that a lot of guys are doing trend these days and they don't have any business doing it. Like guys are jumping into taking massive cycles. Even the young guys, I know guys that are in their late teens, early twenties. It's like you just started lifting six months ago and you just jumped on the trend train. You haven't done anything as well as you train and see what you're capable of naturally first. Once you pick that out and you know how to train, you have good training literacy, you have good nutritional literacy, lifestyle literacy. You've got all these things done you can go really far that way then put the gas in when you're starting it's starting to not not happen anymore but people they don't want to wait anymore yeah they do two years of natty gains or whatever yeah if that if that but i know a lot of coaches who just automatically put people on shit you go to a guy and you're like hey i want to do bodybuilding he goes okay cool here's your list yeah it's like uh what should i do for training well first let's talk about drugs yeah cool i don't know how to bench press or squat we'll just do drugs that'll fix everything it's a funny thing that mike is retell even talking about just bodybuilding he wrote it's like everyone writing about like my metabolism is on fire it's like it's a furnace right now it's like bro all the fucking diuretics and the rest just eat less it's like just eat less like what are you doing like you see some people like yeah i'm eating 4 000 calories like eight weeks out shredded it's like man what are you doing to yourself yeah you're taking dmp Yeah, that's what they're taking. That's nuts. There's stories. DMP was a fun one. Isn't the diuretic the dangerous one? That's the one that sort of... Well, it depends on what diuretic. So things like Lasix, that's the one, that's the big one. Yeah. Right? Because it's... Where people literally die Yeah Like acutely die Like an acute response is Yeah Yeah Because you got to be really careful especially going into a bodybuilding show If you taking something that harsh you really have to know what you doing because you can take the wrong thing and it can fuck you up give you a heart attack. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. It's a whole nother world. And then it was just amazing how aggressive that kind, but you were just saying that we're even ripping into your bloody tattoos. Yeah. My tattoo is like, you should be ashamed about the tattoo. You shouldn't be embarrassed about Harry Potter. You should be embarrassed about that fucking tattoo. Yeah. Fuck you. I don't give a fuck what she's saying. All these keyboard warriors, they wouldn't say shit if we were in the room together. They'd be like, I love your tattoos. That's great. Cool mashup. Yeah, no, it was amazing. One thing I did want to discuss a little bit, so you alluded to it there, but even just from your own experience and going through that, obviously you've been through it yourself and we can only speak from our own experience of observing people make these, call them errors or mistakes in their journeys. but going back to those times, would you do it again? Would you do it differently? Like what would you...