Chapter 13 · Simon Kingsley Dutton - Self Made Podcast
Causes of Movement Dysfunction
September 19, 2021
Do you feel like, you know, what do you feel like causes or gets people into these sort of like bad starting positions? Do you feel it's just ego putting too much weight on the bar and just overloading themselves for years? Or is there more to it in terms of what you see? Yeah, I mean, I guess we can think of it as the law of repetition of efforts. The law of repetition of efforts can build a skill in a positive direction or can build a skill in a negative direction. So I think part of it is a lot of it's ego lifting. A lot of it is maxing out all the time on the same shit. And just every time you do that, you shift a little bit further and further outside of your acceptable technique. And then you ingrain that motor pattern and then that affects other things. And then the next thing you do, you wake up and you got chronic pain. And that's now how you squat because you can't, you can't deviate from that. Um, a lot of it is improper, uh, not paying attention to, um, muscular chains and how they affect each other. A lot of it is poor program design where it's just that the emphasis is too much on this one thing or this couple of things and not looking at a global, I hate the word holistic, but it makes sense here. Like a holistic global kind of thing of how these chains work together. um a lot of it is um you know not taking care of your conditioning and your blood pressure not taking care of your sympathetic nervous system not taking care of your electrolyte balance as far as like sodium potassium not taking care of uh resting heart rate and sleep inflammation there's a lot of things here that can contribute to this and all of these things could be a big contribution or they could be a really small contribution but you know what i reckon what i reckon for most people is that your ability to move is going to be dependent on where your joints can go. And if you've done things and pulled a bone outside of its normal position, you've reduced its capacity to move into certain ranges of motion. So then the body responds by limiting those ranges of motion and causing pain. And then that affects other areas. So for instance, when I was growing up in Texas, it was really common, like it is in most countries, that Monday, Wednesday, and Friday were international bench press days. So everybody's bench, bench, bench, and biceps, bench, and biceps. So if you look at the shoulder, if I'm benching, benching, benching, benching, that's inherently going to pull the humerus forward. And if I'm doing a lot of biceps, biceps, biceps, biceps, that's going to shorten all this and it's going to pull it forward. So lo and behold, you go in after somebody's been doing this for five years and they look like a fucking watermelon farmer. So they look like they're just walking around with these two watermelons. Right. And then they go, I can't bench anymore because it destroys my shoulder. And by the way, I get this weird fucking hip pain and it's affecting my lower back. You're like, interesting. It's like, yeah, my foot hurts, too. It's like, OK, now it's a chicken or egg thing. It's probably related to something they did here that then worked its way down. but the body's always going to move away from pain and the absence of pain does not mean the absence of dysfunction you could be moving away from pain that you're not cognizant you don't have cognitive awareness of because the brain hasn't told you there's an issue because it's working around it so you're looking at i might be moving away from pain i might be moving away from instability and chasing stability i might be moving towards a position where i'm trying to find more space to move a bone. So there's a lot of different things that can contribute to that. When you're looking at obviously, obviously pain, obviously we have to look at pain in terms of you know someone comes in and pain if you can get someone out of pain I think it it you get a buy that you never get from anything including getting in the six and getting a bit of life and um you know but when when you looking at pain and certainly looking at pain science it very complex like we love it like what's painful to you might not feel painful to me or vice versa very subjective do you use pain other than just other than just like making the client happy and buying some services how much do you use pain as like part of your decision making process or is it something that's sort of there but i look at other stuff like how do you start to look at what's going on here well yeah i mean if they say they're in pain it's like okay have you have you actually seen like physio or have you seen an osteo or something like that what did they say okay um and then i might give them a proper assessment and now i've got to determine where that's coming from so what is the higher order thing that's now trickled down to causing this issue what needs to be rectified to move them away from that pain state. But then you also have to look at it as far as like, there's other things this client has come to me for. So that might be losing weight, that might be putting on muscle. I just have to keep that in mind. Like, cool, I'm going to take you, I'm going to, I'm going to make you try to make you not have pain if you do what I tell you to do. But I have to integrate all of that in with a comprehensive program that's also going to get them really fucking jacked and shredded because that's what they're actually coming to me for. so yeah so i i look at you know where do you feel pain let's figure out what's causing it so we're going to try to find out like if this is moved in this direction what muscles could be contributing to that how's the nervous system playing what are you guarding what's causing apprehension now we got to work up that chain so let's say it's something in the ankle we got to look at the hip i'm looking at the hip i got to look at the low back i look at that i got to look at rotation in the in the upper body there's a lot of stuff i have to look at when we're coming back from that and then finding big exercise that fix a lot of shit and not wasting time on a lot of little dinky ass uh rehab you know traditional rehab or contemporary rehab stuff so i i'm looking at it as far as we got to get moving so we need to look at what big movements 80 of it needs to be big movements and 15 or 20 might be little sissy ass open can clamshell shit bullshit stuff yeah i mean so when it comes to like what we're looking at what's actually possible and i've deliberately thrown this question in there because i know on the forums you mentioned that this annoys you so this is this hopefully will give good content but when you look so we've got when we're looking at movement capabilities now we tend to have two camps you mentioned sort of mentioned the two camps earlier on but we've got the um obviously the the pure strength guys you say it's do less weight or just sort of power through and you know everyone everyone should have squat bench deadlift and then you're on the other side you've got mechanics guys who i don't want to call that mechanics is great and physics is irrefutable but obviously with with any trend there's a lot of people that don't apply it particularly well that talk a lot about moving around dysfunction because they you haven't got an x-ray you can't see what the actual posture is you can't see bone spurs you know like