The Law of Diminishing Returns in Gear

even test like fucking i just got i just uh got some trt i probably shouldn't say i smuggled some in from the u.s because i couldn't get i can't get anybody to prescribe me trt even though i've been hypogonadal since i was 36 they look at me and they go you don't look like you need tests i'm like look at my labs i'm hypogonadal no yeah don't worry about it but i 150 milligrams of test a week i put on seven kilos the guys they've got them as more as better mentality and i'm like no no, there is a law diminishing returns where the benefits are not outweighing the side effects. But this ties in so perfectly with the idea of preparation, because one of the things I find is when I get to like, let's say I've done a massing phase with a client and we've got to a point where things have been escalated slightly and they're up to like a peak dosage, if you will, or a peak load. And it's like, I'm not going to run that stagnant till we start prep because prep is going to require you to go up again. I'm not going to do that. At a certain point, that's going to come back down in that downward phase this is a big thing that i try to make sure is that we're getting healthy in that block of time so that you can't handle what prep is about to bring in as you say here like we're making sure the blood markers are good blood pressure is good heart values are good you know cholesterol levels are good we're looking at a total just just get a blood cell count just have you looking at your lymphocytes your nanoscience looking at these things are like are these factors in a good position to handle the increased loads about to come if they're not we're not starting prep until they are if that means we push back six months cool but by doing that it's it's looking at and it's a the one thing i'll give australia because like part of psych and doing our neurological degrees courses they have to teach you about uh psychothymacology and drug addiction and things like that because if you head down that path of psychiatry or psychology you prescribe obviously you've got to understand risk factors um is australia's bigger policy of harm reduction i take a similar approach with supplementation recommendation because a lot of the time we know people are going to do it regardless we know that they're going to do it right i could be irresponsible and let them go to some coach who's just going to throw two grand to train them and say yeah jack cool you're going to die but by learning these things understanding these things having someone in a healthier position at a more sensitive position means that they're they're standing to benefit from a more responsive position they're going to respond better on less and get away with like get away with less getting more out of that more juice like squeezing more out of what they're already using rather than adding more in right and that's i think something that people fail to comprehend in this game especially in australia is you yes you can out drug bad work but that trade-off catches up in five to ten years if you're not taking care of that health you're not looking at those factors we're talking about that's where bodybuilding really starts to someone up i've seen people in like i've worked with that that many clients that work with primal zone that work with Merrick that are just on TRT. I've worked with clients that they're only running 125 days. I will suggest an increase of 25 milligrams of actual total angio-inducing testosterone that will get them from 125 to 150, but that'll gain five kilos. And they'll message me and be like, oh, are we up in this? I'm like, what the fuck for? You want every possible positive,

official response out of doing such little amounts why would you want to risk your health like it doesn't make sense but we end up in this rabbit hole in australia where it's like but i've got to do more because this guy said the output this guy's doing three grams like cool he's 130 kilo pro bodybuilder yeah a very smart coach in his childhood his adaptation response is the threshold so high he has to run that we want to avoid that yeah there's i mean there's always a ceiling there's a ceiling with everything there's a ceiling where more is not necessarily going to get you anywhere it may give you a little bit like you add a little bit more maybe it gives you another three or four percent benefit but it gives you 35 more side effects like that is not a good if you looked at that like investing yeah you'd be like i'm gonna buy penny stocks because it may actually explode but like you're probably just gonna lose all your fucking money like you would never no no one would ever do that but that they do that with drugs and i think a lot of the case too they start chasing the dragon yeah they they add some more and they go i don't think it's working anymore it doesn't feel the same so they add more and they get that next boost and they're like okay then it stops working and it's like a lot of the guys i don't train a lot of people on gear um i've got a handful of guys on trt and one of my guys he's he's on like 160 165 milligrams a test like hey coach i think i need more gear i was like why do you need more like you're just on trt goes i don't feel it anymore i'm like okay you were correcting a deficiency so now you no longer feel like a little 12 year old boy a little eunuch boy you're not it's not supposed to make you continue feeling something it's supposed to make you not feel like garbage anymore which is what it did yeah it's like if you want to add more let's just admit you want to do a cycle and if that if you're going to admit that i'm okay with that yeah so then let's plan out a cycle that's safe for you but you want to do trt recycle no i just want to do trt i'm like okay you don't need any more your fucking labs are looking fantastic why would we add more to this that's retarded